Unstarving Musician | Your fans bought tickets. Do you have their contact info?


Hello and happy Friday!

Here’s something most independent artists don’t think about: when someone buys a ticket through the venue’s platform, that person’s contact information belongs to the platform (not you). They come to your show, they leave, and you have no way to reach them again.

Cody DeLong has spent more than a decade helping artists close that gap. He’s the CEO and co-founder of Sound Rink, a live-music technology company built around VIP experiences, artist pre-sales, and direct-to-fan commerce. Before Sound Rink, he co-founded Armada Merch and has years of experience booking tours, so his perspective on the fan relationship comes from working every angle of the live music business.

Here are some insights from our conversation.

Pre-sale ticketing is the right starting point.
Most artists assume they need a full VIP program before they can start capturing fan data from live shows. Cody says that’s backwards. A standalone pre-sale (selling tickets directly to fans before the general on-sale) is a lower-friction way to start identifying your most committed buyers and owning their contact information. It doesn’t require venue coordination or a dedicated VIP infrastructure. It just requires a system that puts the data in your hands, not the platform’s.

Your label deal may already own your mailing list.
This one is a sad reality. Some label deals include provisions that give the label ownership of the artist’s mailing list. The label creates and manages it, and if the relationship ends, the artist can lose access entirely. Cody’s advice is this, before signing anything, make sure you retain ownership of and access to your own fan data. It’s one of the most overlooked points in deal negotiations for independent artists.

The follow-up is where the relationship is built.
Artists who handle fan data well don’t just collect it, they use it within a week of a show. A thank-you message, a merch discount, some kind of acknowledgment that the fan was there. Cody described artists who send thank-you postcards to early ticket buyers. It’s a small gesture, but it’s the kind of thing that can turn a one-time transaction into the beginning of a long-term fan relationship. Artists who don’t capture data have no path to that follow-up at all.

What actually kills a VIP offering
Cody says the biggest reason VIP experiences fail is artist participation. It's things like showing up disengaged, going through the motions, or not showing up at all. Fans who buy VIP are your most committed buyers. If they leave feeling like an afterthought, you don’t just lose that sale. You lose the fan.

🎧 Where to listen (plus show notes and related links)

Want the implementation-depth resources?

Liner Notes Insider goes deeper than a podcast episode can. Past editions have covered things like royalty recovery tool kits, release planning templates, and revenue comparison calculators — the implementation layer beneath the episodes.

If you’re not yet a Liner Notes subscriber, the free edition covers highlights from this and 300+ conversations.

Liner Notes Insider gets you the complete frameworks.

Support the Unstarving Musician

If you find value in this podcast, please consider a donation via our online tip jar – click, tip, done.

Or visit UnstarvingMusician.com/CrowdSponsor to learn about the many other ways of showing your support.

Your support = love 💟

Peace, love, and burritos,
Robonzo (Roberto)

Share this email and/or read it on the web

Stay in touch!
Instagram | Facebook | YouTube| Threads| X (Twitter) | Bluesky

Feedback, comments, complaints? Reply to this email. I'd love to hear from you. 📭

UnstarvingMusician.com

Robonzo.com

Where to Listen to The Unstarving Musician

Click here to listen on Apple Podcasts

Click here to listen on Overcast

Click here to listen on Spotify

Click here to listen on YouTube

Click here to listen on Pandora

Click here to listen on Amazon

Click here to listen on iHeart Radio

The Unstarving Musician

I'm a musician and host of The Unstarving Musician podcast. Subscribe for conversations with working musicians, creative pros and industry professionals on the craft and business of sustainable creative careers.

Read more from The Unstarving Musician

Happy Friday! What if the reason you’re ready to quit music has nothing to do with the music? Lynz Crichton joins me for the fourth time on the show. She’s a singer-songwriter based in Nottingham, England, and the creator of Music Marketing Method. The conversation started with an email she sent about a working musician named Matt who’d begun drafting the goodbye message for his website. Here are three insights from our conversation. Weariness Is Not the Same as Failure Lynz drew a line in...

Unstarving Musician episode 353 artwork featuring black & white headshot of Pete Ganbarg

Happy Friday! After 35 years of evaluating artists at the highest levels of the major-label system, what does an A&R executive actually believe matters? Pete Ganbarg served as President of A&R at Atlantic Records from 2018 to 2024, capping nearly 16 years at the label. He now runs Pure Tone Music, sits on the Songwriters Hall of Fame board, and teaches at Berklee, NYU, Wesleyan, and the University of New Haven. He's seen what works, what doesn't, and what artists keep getting wrong. Insights...

Terry Carleton playing drums at a show for The Reunion, Beatles tribute band.

Happy Friday! What do you do when a collaborator records a perfect guitar part for your album and then loses the files Terry Carleton found an answer in a Rick Beato video about the Beatles. Terry is a drummer, producer, and studio owner based in San Jose. He first joined me for a podcast episode in January 2024 to talk about his work remixing over 150 original Vince Guaraldi recordings from the Charlie Brown TV specials. He’s back because he just finished something he’d been building for...